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Hawkins Children

   
Little was known in our family about my grandmother's sisters. My dad took down some notes from his mum many years ago before her death in 1978.
  
Granny's sisters as listed by herself

          Annie Rose Hawkins
         Amelia Jane Hawkins
  Elizabeth Caroline Hawkins
           Alice May Hawkins
       Violet Louise Hawkins  
Rose Jessica(Amelia) Hawkins (Unsure, might be Annie listed twice)

UPDATE: I now believe "Rose Jessica (Amelia)" above, is referring to Annie Rose's daughter. Rose A J Deciacco. She appears on an electoral roll as Rose Amelia and the family she married into knew her as Rose Jessie.

     
Siblings Summery

Born
1892 Annie Rose....Wed age 25, John Deciacco 1918. D.1975 age 82

1896 Amelia Jane...Wed age 29, Sidney Thorne 1925. D.1978 age 81

1900 Elizabeth C...Wed age 22, Henry Lummes  1922. D.1991 age 91

1903 Alice May.....Wed age 23, Thomas Green  1927. D.1994 age 90

1904 Henry Thomas............ .................... D.1904 age 0

1906 Frederick Robert P...... .................... D.1907 age 1

1909 Violet Louise Wed age 32, Frank Light   1942. D.1970 age 60


NOTE: From the 1911 Census we know that there were another 3 siblings. I've not found them but there are two possible entries on the BMD index that could be right. Samuel died the same month he was born:  


Surname, First Name,      Mother, Year
Hawkins, Samuel Arthur,   Allen,  1900  J Lambeth 01D 387

Hawkins, Reginald Edward, Allen,  1902  J Lambeth 01D 395

  
Annie Rose Hawkins
   
Birth - BMD Index

Births Sep 1892
Hawkins  Annie Rose  Lambeth  1d  322


Birth - Parish Baptism record

   Name: Annie Rose Hawkins 
         (b.22nd Aug 1892)
Baptism: 18 Sep 1892 
 Father: John Hawkins
         Type founder
 Mother: Amelia Hawkins 
  Abode: 27 Bond Street
 Parish: Saint John The Evangelist,
         Lambeth, Surrey


Marriage - BMD Index
 
Marriages Sep 1918 

Deciacco John    Hawkins  Lambeth 1d 577
Hawkins  Annie R Deciacco Lambeth 1d 577


Marriage - Certificate

    Name: Annie Rose Hawkins (25)
  Spouse: John Desiasco (27)
          Private A.S.C
    Date: 20 Aug 1918, 
          Emmanuel, Surrey, Lambeth
B.Father: John Hawkins,
          Type Founder
G.Father: Gatation Desiasco, 
          Mosaic worker
 Address: 25 Fitzalan Street 
          (for both)


Electoral Roll - 1924, 1925, 1926,1928, 1930, 1931 

245 Queens Buildings, SE1 - Rose Deciacco & John Deciacco 


Electoral Roll - 1932, 1933, 1934

245 Queens Buildings, SE1 - Rose Deciacco

NOTE: John Deciacco had died in 1931.


Electoral Roll - 1937

13 Alberta Street - Annie Rose Deciacco & Rose Amelia Deciacco


Electoral Roll - 1939

108G Queens Buildings  - Rose Deciacco Snr. & Rose Deciacco Jnr.


1939 Register

Block G 108 Queens Buildings 

        Surname   Name      DOB           Occupation
        Deciacco, Annie R.  22 Aug 92  W  Housemaid
Marsden/Deciacco, Rose A.J. 28 Nov 14  S  Shoe Cleaner
 Wilson/Deciacco, Doris A.  31 Mar 21  S  Tobacco Worker


Electoral Roll - 1945, 1946

143 Ponsonby Buildings, Nicholson St, SE1 - Annie R.Deciacco & Doris A.Deciacco

NOTE: Same building No.122, Annie's other daughter, Rose & husband William Marsden live. Same Buiding No.40, Annie's sister, Violet Light & family.
      

Electoral Roll - 1948, 1949, 1950

107 Queens Buildings, Scovell Rd, SE1 - Annie R.Deciacco & Doris A.Deciacco 


Electoral Roll - 1955

164 J Queens Buildings, Collinson St, SE1 - Annie R.Deciacco & Doris A.Deciacco 


Death - BMD Index

1975 Annie Rose Deciacco Dartford vol.16 page.0806 (dob 22/8/1891)

NOTE: Annie's husband, John Deciacco, passed away in 1931.


Annie Rose Deciacco's Children - BMD Index 

Births Dec 1914 
Deciacco Rosa A J  Hawkins  London C. 1c See D/26 

This entry appears to be a late entry referring to the following...

Births 1926 Dec: 
Hawkins,Rose A J,Hawkins,London C,1c,8

Births Jun 1921
Deciacco Doris A   Hawkins  Southwark  1d 50


NOTE: Rose A J Deciacco has been written into the bottom of the 1914 BMD Index. No idea why she might not of been registered until 1926. Her parents didn't marry until the end of the war in 1918. The 1939 register has her correct year of birth listed as 1914.

      
Amelia Jane Hawkins

Birth - BMD Index 

Births Dec 1896
Hawkins  Amelia Jane  St. Saviour  1d  175


Birth - Parish Baptism record

   Name: Amelia Jane Hawkins 
         (in margin b.23/9/1896)
Baptism: 9 Oct 1896 
 Father: John Hawkins - Type founder
 Mother: Amelia Hawkins 
  Abode: 7 St.Gabriel St
 Parish: Saint John The Evangelist,
         Walworth, Southwark, Surrey


Birth - Certificate

Amelia Jane Hawkins - 23rd September 1896, Sub-district St Mary's Newington. 

NOTE: Obtained from short birth certificate. Not on certificate - Parents John and Amelia Hawkins. 


Marriage - Certificate

Amelia Jane Hawkins & Sidney Charles Thorne.

     Date: 19th December 1925
    Place: Registry office Southwark
    Groom: S. Thorne, aged 31
           Seaman Merchant service
    Bride: A. Hawkins aged 29
           Paper packer
 G.Father: Charles Thorne(deceased)
           Boiler makers labourer
 B.Father: John Hawkins (deceased)
           Type founder
G.Address: 188 Queens buildings,
           Scovell Road
B.Address: 3 Toulmin Street
Witnesses: D Lee, & H Lee


NOTE: Toulmin street is very close to Queens buildings and Great Suffolk.

NOTE: D Lee, is Sidney's sister Dora & her husband Harry Lee.


Death - certificate

Died 27th March 1978

Aged 81 years. (cremated)
    
    
Elizabeth Caroline Hawkins

Birth - BMD Index 

Births Jun 1900 - Hawkins  Elizabeth Caroline  Lambeth  1d  296


Birth - Parish Baptism record

   Name: Elizabeth Caroline Hawkins
         (b.18 march 1900)
Baptism: 15 Apr 1900 
 Father: John Hawkins
         Type Founder
 Mother: Amelia Hawkins
  Abode: 27 Bazon St?
 Parish: Saint John The Evangelist,
         Lambeth, Surrey


Marriage - BMD Index

Marriages Dec 1922
 
Hawkins  Elizabeth C  Lummes  Southwark  1d 224
Lummes   Henry E      Hawkins Southwark  1d 224


Electoral Roll - 1923-1928

10 Horsman St, Camberwell - Annie Lummes, Frank Lummes & Harry Edward Lummes.


NOTE: Annie & Frank Lummes is Elizabeth's inlaws. Elizabeth doesn't qualify to vote until after 1928, so is not on the roll.


Electoral Roll - 1929-1938

10 Horsman St, Camberwell - Harry Edward Lummes & Elizabeth Caroline Lummes. & up until 1931 Annie Lummes,& up until 1936 Frank W.Lummes.
         
                   
NOTE: Horsman St. was hit by a V1 on the 14th January 1945. No evidence to suggest the Lummes family where still there after 1938. Although the Lummes family were bombed out of their home twice during the war. Addresses unknown.


Death - BMD Index  

Deaths Jun 1991
Elizabeth Caroline Lummes 91yrs  Northern Surrey  17  494
 
DOB: 18 Mar 1900


Elizabeth Caroline Lummes Children - BMD Index

Births Jun 1923
Lummes Elizabeth R Hawkins Southwark 1d 189

Births Jun 1927
Lummes Harry E  Hawkins Southwark 1d 84

   
Alice May Hawkins

Birth - BMD Index 

Births Sep 1903
Hawkins  Alice May  Southwark  1d  4


Birth - Parish Baptism record

   Name: Alice May Hawkins
         (b.6th April 1903)
Baptism: 3 May 1903 
 Father: John Hawkins - Type founder
 Mother: Amelia Hawkins 
  Abode: 40 Stamford St
 Parish: Saint John The Evangelist,
         Lambeth, Surrey


School - Admissions  

18th Oct 1909  Orange Street School Southwark 

Alice May Hawkins.  Father John Hawkins (type caster).

Address: 141 I  Q's Buildings.


NOTE: Has wrong DOB. 10/08/03. Should be 06/04/03. Can't explain this but it is the correct record.


Marriage - BMD Index  

Marriages Jun 1927 
  
Green   Thomas B Hawkins Southwark 1d 122
Hawkins Alice M  Green   Southwark 1d 122

NOTE: Alice married a Green is confirmed by Grans notes.


Electoral Roll - 1929 to 1935

102 Ponsonby Buildings, Charles St - Alice May Green & Thomas Benjamin Green.

NOTE: Alice's mother Amelia Hawkins and Sister Violet are living a few doors down at No.109


Electoral Roll - 1936 to 1939

153 Ponsonby Buildings, Charles St - Alice May Green & Thomas Benjamin Green.


Electoral Roll - 1945 to 1949

35 Warham Street, SE5 - Alice May Green, Thomas Benjamin Green & Amelia Hawkins.

NOTE: Amelia Hawkins (nee.Allen) dies in 1949.


Electoral Roll - 1958

35 Warham Street, SE5 - Alice M.Green & Thomas B.Green.
                        Jean A.M Pearson & Donald K.Pearson

NOTE: Jean A.M Pearson is the daughter of Alice and Thomas Green.


Death - BMD Index

         Name: GREEN, Alice May
 Reg district: Wandsworth, London
         Date: January 1994
Date of Birth: 21 June 1903

NOTE: I am not sure if this is the right BMD entry. It all fits except for the date of birth.  Perhaps whoever registered the death made a mistake.

            
   
Thomas Henry Hawkins

BMD Index 
 
Births Jun 1904
Hawkins Thomas Henry  Southwark  1d 4

Deaths Sep 1904
Hawkins Thomas Henry 0 Southwark 1d 2
 

Birth - Parish Baptism record

   Name: Thomas Henry Hawkins
         (b.1st April 1904)
Baptism: 24 Apr 1904
 Father: John Hawkins
         Printer's Labourer
 Mother: Amelia Hawkins
  Abode: 40 Stamford St
 Parish: Saint John The Evangelist,
         Lambeth, Surrey


Obtained: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint John The Evangelist, Lambeth. Register of baptisms, P85/JNA3, Item 022     

   
Frederick Hawkins

BMD Index 
 
Births Dec 1906
Hawkins Frederick Robert P Southwark 1d 60

Deaths Mar 1907
Hawkins Frederick Robert P  0 Southwark  1d 33
 

Birth - Parish Baptism record

   Name: Frederick Robert Hawkins
         (b.3rd Nov 1906)
Baptism: 2 Dec 1906
 Father: John Hawkins
         Printer's Labourer
 Mother: Amelia Hawkins 
  Abode: 141 I Queens Buildings
 Parish: Saint John The Evangelist,
         Lambeth, Surrey 

   
Violet Louisa Hawkins

Birth - BMD Index 
 
Births Sep 1909
Hawkins Violet Gertrude L  Southwark 1d 58


Birth - Baptism 

   Name: Violet Gertrude Louisa Hawkins
   Date: 12th Sept 1909
 Father: John Hawkins,
         Printers labourer
 Mother: Amelia Hawkins
Address: 141 High Block
  Place: St John the Evangelist,
         Lambeth.
       

Birth - Certificate 

     Name: Violet Gertrude Louisa Hawkins
     Date: 31st July 1909
   Father: John Hawkins,
           Printers labourer
   Mother: Amelia Hawkins,
           formerly Allen
  Address: 141 block I
           Queens Buildings
Informant: F Dawson 140 block I


NOTE: Unsure about this one. Gertrude as a name has never been mentioned by
      anyone in family. Right date. Update Oct 09 - Confirmed as right BMD entry.
      
      
NOTE: Looks like a J on certificate, but previous documents have shown an I. After viewing plans for the building 141 is in block I.
      
Also the same day Violet was being baptised, so was her cousin Arthur Parker Hawkins/Berry. Same address, so I think he was probably living with his Uncle John for some time as he is also shown with them in the 1911 Census. 
      
It pretty obvious whoever wrote the record put HIGH instead of I for the block/address. They make the same mistake on the record for both Violet and her cousin Arthur.


Marriage - BMD Index 

Marriages Jun 1942

Hawkins Violet G L  Light   Southwark  1d  111
  Light Frank       Hawkins Southwark  1d  111

 
Electoral Roll - 1945 to 1960   
   
40 Ponsonby Buildings, Nicholson St, SE1 - Violet G.L.Light & Frank E.Light

NOTE: Nicholson St is just off of Blackfriars Rd. Violet's sister Annie Deciacco is residing in the same building at No.143.


Death - BMD Index   
   
Jan 1970
Violet Gertrude L Light (b.abt 1905) Southwark 5e 180

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