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Edward Poole

  
Birth details

BMD Index...

Births Dec 1844
Pool Edward St.Geo.Southwark Turner 4 458

  
Marriage - Certificate
 
   Date: 1868 - May 31st
   Name: Edward Poole, full age
         Brass moulder.
 Father: Edward Poole, Carman.
Address: Castle street
   Name: Harriet Catherine Leigh Hunt, 22
 Father: John Hunt, Author
Witness: Edward Poole
         Ruby Leigh Hunt. 


Marriage - BMD Index        

Marriages June 1868
Poole Edward  West London 1c 74
Hunt Harriett Catherine L 

        
Death details

Poole Edward, age 67, 1912 Mar Islington 1B 290 

        
Extra info on Edward's children


Kate Ruby Poole

BMD Index...

Births Sep 1869
Catherine Ruby Poole  Holborn 1b 625
   
Marriages Dec 1893 
Kate Ruby Poole          St.Saviour 1d  174
Charles Thomas E Thorne  St.Saviour 1d  174

Deaths Mar 1957
Catherine R Thorne 86yrs Lambeth 5c 1249


For more information on Kate Ruby Poole please view her individual page.


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Edward W Poole

BMD Index...

Births Dec 1870
Poole Edward Walter St.Olave 1d 288

Marriages Dec 1893
Poole Edward   Holborn 1b 1197
Moore Bridget  Holborn 1b 1197


1891 Census...

      Name: Edward Poole
       Age: 19
 Est Birth: abt 1872
  Relation: Boarder
Where born: Walworth, London
Occupation: Book Binders Porter
   Address: 61 Orange St. 
            All Hallows Boys Home
	
St Saviours, All Hallows, Southwark
ED: 5  Piece: 342  Folio: 112  Page: 13

NOTE: I have a really strong feeling that this is the right Edward Poole. After their father disappears, Arthur & Edward are no where to be found in 1891. But in 1893 Arthur is in Orange Street, and their mother is in Pepper St, just around the corner from them. Plus his occupation is a Porter in a Book Binders, and later his trade is a Book Binder. 

Apart from the Head, a Clerk in Holy Order, & a domestic the other boarders are all around the same age as Edward.


Marriage certificate...

          Date: 22 Oct 1893
         Place: Saint Luke, 
                Old Street, 
                Middlesex, Islington
         Groom: Edward Poole, 22
                (Bookbinder)
         Bride: Bridget Moore, 18
Groom's Father: Edward Walter Poole 
                (Brass founder)
Bride's Father: John Patrick Moore 
                (Brick layer)
     Witnesses: Kate Ruby Poole 
                Robert Moore
 

1911 Census...

   Edward Poole  Head M  40  Blackfriars Yeast Labourer        
  Bridget Poole  Wife M  36  St Pancras  Artificial Flower Maker
 Florence Poole  Dau  S  15  Southwark   Leather Bag Maker
    Elsie Poole  Dau      7  Southwark
    Ethel Poole  Dau      6  Fisbury
   Edward Poole  Son      4  Fisbury
Frederick Poole  Son      2  Fisbury
Elizabeth Moore  Rel  W  66  St Pancras  House-Keeper

Address: 3 Royley Street, Holborn, London, Saint Luke. Married 18 years.
   


 British Army WWI Pension Records...

          Name: Edward Walter Poole
    Est. Birth: abt 1876
Enlistment age: 39
     Residence: 43 Peerless Street, 
                St Luke's London
   Next of kin: Wife, Bridget Poole
 Document Year: 1915
 Regimental No: 14129
 Regiment Name: 20th(Shoreditch) Battalion Middlesex Regiment


NOTE: Edward was born 1870, thus making him 45 years old(nearly 46). Did he lie to enlist? He was discharged later under Paragraph 392, Kings Regulations.

Para 392 (iii) (B)

(iii) Not being likely to become an efficient soldier.
  (b) Recruit passed by medical officer, but rejected by a recruiting officer stationed away from the headquarters of the recruiting area, or by approving officer. 

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Arthur Poole

BMD Index...

Births  Mar 1873  
Poole Arthur  St.Saviour  1d 7


School Record...

      Name: Arthur Poole
       Age: 5
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1873
    School: John Harvard School, 
            Milkwood Road
   Borough: Tower Hamlets
 Admission: 30 Sep 1878
    Parent: Edward - brass moulder,
            89 Suffolk Street


British Army Service Records...

              Name: Arthur Poole
Age At Attestation: 18
        Birth Year: 1874
  Attestation Date: 31 June 1893
       Birth Place: London, Southwark 
                    Surrey England
 Attestation Corps: East Surrey Regiment
    Soldier Number: 7271
   Discharge Corps: East Surrey Regiment
          Regiment: East Surrey Regiment
                    31st & 70th Foot
       Description: 5ft 3in, 118lbs, 
                    Brown eyes & 
                    D.brown hair.
           Address: 13 Orange Street, 
                    Gravel Lane

Box 592 Number 264  Series militia service records 1806-1915

NOTE: The original images (3) show that Arthur signed up again in 1899 & was due for permanent duty with the regular forces. He served in South Africa from the 5th June 1901 to 26th July 1902.

NOTE: 11,13,15 Orange Street was lodging Houses.



1901 Census...

Name          Relation     Age  Birth  Occupation     Born
Arthur Poole  Prisoner  S  26   1875   Dock Labourer  Southwark

Wandsworth, county London. RG13 Piece:488 Folio:47 Page:28      


Wandsworth Prison Record...

              Reg No: 11668
           Committal: 11 March 1901 Southwark
             Offence: Assaulted a Policeman
            Sentence: 6 weeks hard labour
           Education: IMP (?)
                 Age: 26 years
              Height: 5' 3"
               Trade: labourer
            Religion: C of E
                Born: London
Previous Convictions: 3
          Discharged: 20 April 1901

NOTE: Obtained by Ron from the Metropolitan Archives London.



British Army WWI Pension Records...

 Document Year: 1914
    Form Title: Short Service Attestation
 Regiment Name: Royal Field Artillery
         Where: Southwark Town Hall
          Name: Arthur Poole
 Regimental No: 39945
    Occupation: Casual Labourer
   Birth Place: Southwark, Surrey
  Declared Age: 31 40
        Height: 5ft 3½ inches
        Weight: 122lbs
    Complexion: Fresh
 Hair and Eyes: Brown
        C of E: Yes
      Enlisted: 6th Oct 1914
    Discharged: 16th Nov 1914 (42 days)
   Next of Kin: Mother, Catherine Poole 61 Little Surrey Place
Blackfriars Road ????  address: 6 Sylvester Street Borough

Distinctive marks/scars:
Lady ? Lforearm
T.R.A Rforearm
Scar over forehead


Like his brother Edward, Arthur also lied about his age. Told them he was 31 when he was in fact 40. He was discharged later under Paragraph 392, 
Kings Regulations.

Para 392 (iii) (B)

(iii) Not being likely to become an efficient soldier.
  (b) Recruit passed by medical officer, but rejected by a recruiting officer stationed away from the headquarters of the recruiting area, or by approving officer. 
  
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