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Additional Notes

Thomas Allen

    
Birth details 

Estimated date of birth, as somewhere in between 1786 to 1789.

Given that Thomas was married in 1807, and that in the 1841 census he is anywhere between 50 & 55 years of age. Depending on when his birthday fell also. Then this narrows his birth down to a 3 year period shown above.
      
    
Marriage - IGI Index 

 Name: Thomas Allin
 Name: Mary Hill
 Date: 01 Jul 1807
Place: Saint Mary
       St Marylebone Rd, London


NOTE: The most likely marriage for Thomas Allen as it's the same church that all his children christened in.
      
    
Death details 

We know from two of his children's marriage parish records and his wife's census returns that Thomas must of passed away some time before 1850 (see below).

Mary Ann Hill passed away some time after 1861.
    
    
Daughter's marriage 

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

   Groom: Richard Jr. Smith
   Bride: Caroline Mary Allen
    Date: 20 Aug 1849
   Place: St. Mary's, 
          Lambeth, Surrey
G.Father: Richard Smith
B.Father: Thomas Allen 
          (deceased)
    
    
Census Returns 


1851 Census

   Name: Mary Allen (widow)
   Born: Southwark, Surrey
  Where: St Margaret, 
         Westminster, Middlesex

Household Members: 	
    Mary Allen 68 (head)
Caroline Smith 22 (daughter)
 Richard Smith 18 (son-in-law)
 Richard Smith 9m (grandson)



1861 Census

   Name: Caroline Smith, 33
   Born: Marylebone, Middlesex
  Where: St John the Evangelist,
         Westminster 
Address: 1 Five Chimney Court 
         (near Vauxhall Bridge Rd)

Household Members: 	
 Richard Smith 32 (general dealer, head)
Caroline Smith 33 (wife)
 Richard Smith 10 (son)
Caroline Smith 4  (daughter)
Mary Ann Allen 79 (wife's mother, widow)


NOTE: 1871 census there is no Mary Ann Allen living with her daughter Caroline Smith.

   
Thomas and Mary's children 

Births - IGI Index 


       Name: William Allen
      Birth: 13 Jun 1809   	
Christening: 28 Jun 1809
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
     Mother: Mary


       Name: Sarah Allen 
      Birth: 13 Jun 1811  	
Christening: 13 Jun 1811
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
     Mother: Mary


       Name: Elizabeth Allen 
      Birth: 13 Jun 1811   	
Christening: 13 Jun 1811
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
     Mother: Mary


       Name: Mary Ann Allen
      Birth: 27 Dec 1811   	
Christening: 12 Jan 1812
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
     Mother: Mary


       Name: Eliza Allen
      Birth: 27 Nov 1813   	
Christening: 5 Dec 1813
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
 Occupation: Trade
     Mother: Mary


       Name: Frederick Allen
      Birth: 01 Jul 1814  	
Christening: 24 Jul 1814
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
 Occupation: Trade
     Mother: Mary


       Name: Walter Allen
      Birth: 15 Jun 1816   	
Christening: 30 Jun 1816
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
     Mother: Mary
 

       Name: Thomas Joseph Allen
      Birth: 06 DEC 1817   	
Christening: 21 JUN 1819
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Joseph Allen
 Occupation: Labourer
     Mother: Mary Thomas Allen


       Name: George Allen
      Birth: 11 Apr 1821   	
Christening: 9 Jan 1823
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Joseph Allen
 Occupation: Labourer
     Mother: Mary


       Name: Harriet Allen
      Birth: 19 Jul 1823   	
Christening: 10 Aug 1823
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen
 Occupation: Labourer
     Mother: Mary


       Name: William Allen
      Birth: 25 Mar 1825   	
Christening: 17 Apr 1825
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
 Occupation: Labourer
     Mother: Mary
      Abode: 21 Charles St
 

       Name: Caroline Allen
      Birth: 27 Nov 1828   	
Christening: 21 Dec 1828
      Place: Saint Mary,
             St Marylebone Rd 
     Father: Thomas Allen 
 Occupation: Labourer
     Mother: Mary
      Abode: 12 Little James Street
      
     
NOTE: Some of the dates for these don't add up. Could be simple mistake by whoever transcribed the parish records.
      
NOTE: The last two children, William & Caroline are also on the 1841 census with their parents.
       
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